what this newsgroup

Well, folks, I came to this newsgroup thinking I could both help others and get some help as well. I've been testing Windows Vista since the end of July 2005, and have downloaded and installed every build as it came out.
At this point, it doesn't look like that's gonna happen, simply because we're all too busy arguing with Kevin John Panzke. He seems to have taken control of this newsgroup, and made it his own. There's not real information being shared at all, so I have a couple of choices . . .
I can stick around and see what happens, or I can just bail right now, and forget about this newsgroup as being useful to anyone but Kevin John Panzke and his agenda.
What I think I'll do is killfile Kevin John Panzke, and stick around for awhile to see if anyone else is more interested in the exchange of information, rather than arguing with Kevin John Panzke.
I've only covered the surface of Windows Vista, and there are those here who know a lot more than I do, and have information, etc. to offer.
Let's start a dialogue about Vista, and forget about petty jerks who only want attention. Let the information begin to flow!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP

Nancy:
I agree with you fully. This isn't the only newsgroup to be plagued by him. You missed the havoc he created complaining about not being accepted into the Vista beta.
I'm waiting for the CPP release of Vista to test the x64 version and have been monitoring this group for pitfalls and to know what I need to enhance the use of Vista. I've made a few replies on x64 issues that will also have an effect on Vista x64. Keep up your good work in trying to make the Vista experience better for all.


"NLWard" wrote in message

Well, folks, I came to this newsgroup thinking I could both help others and get some help as well. I've been testing Windows Vista since the end of July 2005, and have downloaded and installed every build as it came out.
At this point, it doesn't look like that's gonna happen, simply because we're all too busy arguing with Kevin John Panzke. He seems to have taken control of this newsgroup, and made it his own. There's not real information being shared at all, so I have a couple of choices . . .
I can stick around and see what happens, or I can just bail right now, and forget about this newsgroup as being useful to anyone but Kevin John Panzke and his agenda.
What I think I'll do is killfile Kevin John Panzke, and stick around for awhile to see if anyone else is more interested in the exchange of information, rather than arguing with Kevin John Panzke.
I've only covered the surface of Windows Vista, and there are those here who know a lot more than I do, and have information, etc. to offer.
Let's start a dialogue about Vista, and forget about petty jerks who only want attention. Let the information begin to flow!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP

Hi Nancy,
I fully agree with you, it saddens me to see the state of .general ng for Windows Vista so far, especially this early. The problem is some of us have become consumed with correcting Kevin Panzke to the point we don't see that we are becoming more a part of the problem than the solution. I think it was Mike Williams who told me to stop feeding him, and I think I have done just that, I do occasionally reply to some of Kevin's post, but I am not like some persons in here who make it an occupation.
Just like you, I am learning about Vista too, and being able to learn about it this early during its development is an opportunity I am thankful for. I also see it as an opportunity for us all to share our experiences from using Vista so far. Last night, I was thinking, maybe I should help start some topic focus on technologies in Windows Vista so we can learn about some of the great stuff thats coming and discuss it as we move forward to BETA 2 and on to RTM. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"NLWard" wrote in message

Well, folks, I came to this newsgroup thinking I could both help others and get some help as well. I've been testing Windows Vista since the end of July 2005, and have downloaded and installed every build as it came out.
At this point, it doesn't look like that's gonna happen, simply because we're all too busy arguing with Kevin John Panzke. He seems to have taken control of this newsgroup, and made it his own. There's not real information being shared at all, so I have a couple of choices . . .
I can stick around and see what happens, or I can just bail right now, and forget about this newsgroup as being useful to anyone but Kevin John Panzke and his agenda.
What I think I'll do is killfile Kevin John Panzke, and stick around for awhile to see if anyone else is more interested in the exchange of information, rather than arguing with Kevin John Panzke.
I've only covered the surface of Windows Vista, and there are those here who know a lot more than I do, and have information, etc. to offer.
Let's start a dialogue about Vista, and forget about petty jerks who only want attention. Let the information begin to flow!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP

Perhaps one of us can get a webpage created on how to filter out Kevin's post using OE/Thunderbird/Web based MS Forum :P
-- Jabez Gan [MVP] Microsoft MVP: Windows Server http://www.blizhosting.com MSBLOG: http://www.msblog.org Contact me via email for consultancy: mingteikg [ a t] mvps . org
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

Hi Nancy,
I fully agree with you, it saddens me to see the state of .general ng for Windows Vista so far, especially this early. The problem is some of us have become consumed with correcting Kevin Panzke to the point we don't see that we are becoming more a part of the problem than the solution. I think it was Mike Williams who told me to stop feeding him, and I think I have done just that, I do occasionally reply to some of Kevin's post, but I am not like some persons in here who make it an occupation.
Just like you, I am learning about Vista too, and being able to learn about it this early during its development is an opportunity I am thankful for. I also see it as an opportunity for us all to share our experiences from using Vista so far. Last night, I was thinking, maybe I should help start some topic focus on technologies in Windows Vista so we can learn about some of the great stuff thats coming and discuss it as we move forward to BETA 2 and on to RTM. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"NLWard" wrote in message Well, folks, I came to this newsgroup thinking I could both help others and get some help as well. I've been testing Windows Vista since the end of July 2005, and have downloaded and installed every build as it came out.
At this point, it doesn't look like that's gonna happen, simply because we're all too busy arguing with Kevin John Panzke. He seems to have taken control of this newsgroup, and made it his own. There's not real information being shared at all, so I have a couple of choices . . .
I can stick around and see what happens, or I can just bail right now, and forget about this newsgroup as being useful to anyone but Kevin John Panzke and his agenda.
What I think I'll do is killfile Kevin John Panzke, and stick around for awhile to see if anyone else is more interested in the exchange of information, rather than arguing with Kevin John Panzke.
I've only covered the surface of Windows Vista, and there are those here who know a lot more than I do, and have information, etc. to offer.
Let's start a dialogue about Vista, and forget about petty jerks who only want attention. Let the information begin to flow!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP

I also agree with Andre - however I've blocked all his posts now so I'm free from it. It's difficult at first to understand why some people are saying certain things because I can't see his posts, but I certainly recommend doing that - blocking posts.
Work's a treat :o)
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

Hi Nancy,
I fully agree with you, it saddens me to see the state of .general ng for Windows Vista so far, especially this early. The problem is some of us have become consumed with correcting Kevin Panzke to the point we don't see that we are becoming more a part of the problem than the solution. I think it was Mike Williams who told me to stop feeding him, and I think I have done just that, I do occasionally reply to some of Kevin's post, but I am not like some persons in here who make it an occupation.
Just like you, I am learning about Vista too, and being able to learn about it this early during its development is an opportunity I am thankful for. I also see it as an opportunity for us all to share our experiences from using Vista so far. Last night, I was thinking, maybe I should help start some topic focus on technologies in Windows Vista so we can learn about some of the great stuff thats coming and discuss it as we move forward to BETA 2 and on to RTM. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"NLWard" wrote in message Well, folks, I came to this newsgroup thinking I could both help others and get some help as well. I've been testing Windows Vista since the end of July 2005, and have downloaded and installed every build as it came out.
At this point, it doesn't look like that's gonna happen, simply because we're all too busy arguing with Kevin John Panzke. He seems to have taken control of this newsgroup, and made it his own. There's not real information being shared at all, so I have a couple of choices . . .
I can stick around and see what happens, or I can just bail right now, and forget about this newsgroup as being useful to anyone but Kevin John Panzke and his agenda.
What I think I'll do is killfile Kevin John Panzke, and stick around for awhile to see if anyone else is more interested in the exchange of information, rather than arguing with Kevin John Panzke.
I've only covered the surface of Windows Vista, and there are those here who know a lot more than I do, and have information, etc. to offer.
Let's start a dialogue about Vista, and forget about petty jerks who only want attention. Let the information begin to flow!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP

I was one of the 1st ones to put him on my kill file a couple of months ago. I did remove him from there after I started seeing replies to his posts that I did not see. I have now tried to talk some sense to him but it is to no avail. I found out that he is a young boy in his pre-teens and there is no use to talk to him.
I am now going to start to ignore his posts and we should all do this either by kill file or our own self control. Adding fuel to the fire does not help. As soon as he will realize that he will be talking to himself the sooner he will stop his child like nonsense
-- Peter
Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
"NLWard" wrote in message

Well, folks, I came to this newsgroup thinking I could both help others and get some help as well. I've been testing Windows Vista since the end of July 2005, and have downloaded and installed every build as it came out.
At this point, it doesn't look like that's gonna happen, simply because we're all too busy arguing with Kevin John Panzke. He seems to have taken control of this newsgroup, and made it his own. There's not real information being shared at all, so I have a couple of choices . . .
I can stick around and see what happens, or I can just bail right now, and forget about this newsgroup as being useful to anyone but Kevin John Panzke and his agenda.
What I think I'll do is killfile Kevin John Panzke, and stick around for awhile to see if anyone else is more interested in the exchange of information, rather than arguing with Kevin John Panzke.
I've only covered the surface of Windows Vista, and there are those here who know a lot more than I do, and have information, etc. to offer.
Let's start a dialogue about Vista, and forget about petty jerks who only want attention. Let the information begin to flow!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP

With OE, it's quite simple :
Highlight a message from the individual you want to killfile, click the "Message" menu, and select "Block Sender" from the dropdown.
Accept the confirmation and select "Yes" if you want to delete all his messages from the ng.
Poof! No more newsgroup messages from that individual.

Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP aspnetfaq.com : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/ asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/ foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/ =================================== "Jabez Gan [MVP]" wrote in message

Perhaps one of us can get a webpage created on how to filter out Kevin's post using OE/Thunderbird/Web based MS Forum :P
-- Jabez Gan [MVP] Microsoft MVP: Windows Server http://www.blizhosting.com MSBLOG: http://www.msblog.org Contact me via email for consultancy: mingteikg [ a t] mvps . org
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Hi Nancy,
I fully agree with you, it saddens me to see the state of .general ng for Windows Vista so far, especially this early. The problem is some of us have become consumed with correcting Kevin Panzke to the point we don't see that we are becoming more a part of the problem than the solution. I think it was Mike Williams who told me to stop feeding him, and I think I have done just that, I do occasionally reply to some of Kevin's post, but I am not like some persons in here who make it an occupation.
Just like you, I am learning about Vista too, and being able to learn about it this early during its development is an opportunity I am thankful for. I also see it as an opportunity for us all to share our experiences from using Vista so far. Last night, I was thinking, maybe I should help start some topic focus on technologies in Windows Vista so we can learn about some of the great stuff thats coming and discuss it as we move forward to BETA 2 and on to RTM. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"NLWard" wrote in message Well, folks, I came to this newsgroup thinking I could both help others and get some help as well. I've been testing Windows Vista since the end of July 2005, and have downloaded and installed every build as it came out.
At this point, it doesn't look like that's gonna happen, simply because we're all too busy arguing with Kevin John Panzke. He seems to have taken control of this newsgroup, and made it his own. There's not real information being shared at all, so I have a couple of choices . . .
I can stick around and see what happens, or I can just bail right now, and forget about this newsgroup as being useful to anyone but Kevin John Panzke and his agenda.
What I think I'll do is killfile Kevin John Panzke, and stick around for awhile to see if anyone else is more interested in the exchange of information, rather than arguing with Kevin John Panzke.
I've only covered the surface of Windows Vista, and there are those here who know a lot more than I do, and have information, etc. to offer.
Let's start a dialogue about Vista, and forget about petty jerks who only want attention. Let the information begin to flow!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP

Yep, Juan, that's what I did, and now I don't see any more complaining/whining/knowmorethanyoudo/just FYI messages. My monitor is finally peaceful, and I won't be bothered. -- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Juan T. Llibre" wrote in message

With OE, it's quite simple :
Highlight a message from the individual you want to killfile, click the "Message" menu, and select "Block Sender" from the dropdown.
Accept the confirmation and select "Yes" if you want to delete all his messages from the ng.
Poof! No more newsgroup messages from that individual.

Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP aspnetfaq.com : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/ asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/ foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/ =================================== "Jabez Gan [MVP]" wrote in message Perhaps one of us can get a webpage created on how to filter out Kevin's post using OE/Thunderbird/Web based MS Forum :P
-- Jabez Gan [MVP] Microsoft MVP: Windows Server http://www.blizhosting.com MSBLOG: http://www.msblog.org Contact me via email for consultancy: mingteikg [ a t] mvps . org
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Hi Nancy,
I fully agree with you, it saddens me to see the state of .general ng for Windows Vista so far, especially this early. The problem is some of us have become consumed with correcting Kevin Panzke to the point we don't see that we are becoming more a part of the problem than the solution. I think it was Mike Williams who told me to stop feeding him, and I think I have done just that, I do occasionally reply to some of Kevin's post, but I am not like some persons in here who make it an occupation.
Just like you, I am learning about Vista too, and being able to learn about it this early during its development is an opportunity I am thankful for. I also see it as an opportunity for us all to share our experiences from using Vista so far. Last night, I was thinking, maybe I should help start some topic focus on technologies in Windows Vista so we can learn about some of the great stuff thats coming and discuss it as we move forward to BETA 2 and on to RTM. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"NLWard" wrote in message Well, folks, I came to this newsgroup thinking I could both help others and get some help as well. I've been testing Windows Vista since the end of July 2005, and have downloaded and installed every build as it came out.
At this point, it doesn't look like that's gonna happen, simply because we're all too busy arguing with Kevin John Panzke. He seems to have taken control of this newsgroup, and made it his own. There's not real information being shared at all, so I have a couple of choices . . .
I can stick around and see what happens, or I can just bail right now, and forget about this newsgroup as being useful to anyone but Kevin John Panzke and his agenda.
What I think I'll do is killfile Kevin John Panzke, and stick around for awhile to see if anyone else is more interested in the exchange of information, rather than arguing with Kevin John Panzke.
I've only covered the surface of Windows Vista, and there are those here who know a lot more than I do, and have information, etc. to offer.
Let's start a dialogue about Vista, and forget about petty jerks who only want attention. Let the information begin to flow!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP

Actually, if memory serves, Peter, he's somewhere around late 20s. At least that's what his age was in the MSN Premium and MSN Messenger betas and the MSN Beta Butterfly group.
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Peter Foldes" wrote in message I was one of the 1st ones to put him on my kill file a couple of months ago. I did remove him from there after I started seeing replies to his posts that I did not see. I have now tried to talk some sense to him but it is to no avail. I found out that he is a young boy in his pre-teens and there is no use to talk to him.
I am now going to start to ignore his posts and we should all do this either by kill file or our own self control. Adding fuel to the fire does not help. As soon as he will realize that he will be talking to himself the sooner he will stop his child like nonsense
-- Peter
Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
"NLWard" wrote in message

Well, folks, I came to this newsgroup thinking I could both help others and get some help as well. I've been testing Windows Vista since the end of July 2005, and have downloaded and installed every build as it came out.
At this point, it doesn't look like that's gonna happen, simply because we're all too busy arguing with Kevin John Panzke. He seems to have taken control of this newsgroup, and made it his own. There's not real information being shared at all, so I have a couple of choices . . .
I can stick around and see what happens, or I can just bail right now, and forget about this newsgroup as being useful to anyone but Kevin John Panzke and his agenda.
What I think I'll do is killfile Kevin John Panzke, and stick around for awhile to see if anyone else is more interested in the exchange of information, rather than arguing with Kevin John Panzke.
I've only covered the surface of Windows Vista, and there are those here who know a lot more than I do, and have information, etc. to offer.
Let's start a dialogue about Vista, and forget about petty jerks who only want attention. Let the information begin to flow!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP

Well, Now that that's settled, I do have Vista questions!!
Jeff
"NLWard" wrote in message

Actually, if memory serves, Peter, he's somewhere around late 20s. At least that's what his age was in the MSN Premium and MSN Messenger betas and the MSN Beta Butterfly group.
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Peter Foldes" wrote in message I was one of the 1st ones to put him on my kill file a couple of months ago. I did remove him from there after I started seeing replies to his posts that I did not see. I have now tried to talk some sense to him but it is to no avail. I found out that he is a young boy in his pre-teens and there is no use to talk to him.
I am now going to start to ignore his posts and we should all do this either by kill file or our own self control. Adding fuel to the fire does not help. As soon as he will realize that he will be talking to himself the sooner he will stop his child like nonsense
-- Peter
Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
"NLWard" wrote in message Well, folks, I came to this newsgroup thinking I could both help others and get some help as well. I've been testing Windows Vista since the end of July 2005, and have downloaded and installed every build as it came out.
At this point, it doesn't look like that's gonna happen, simply because we're all too busy arguing with Kevin John Panzke. He seems to have taken control of this newsgroup, and made it his own. There's not real information being shared at all, so I have a couple of choices . . .
I can stick around and see what happens, or I can just bail right now, and forget about this newsgroup as being useful to anyone but Kevin John Panzke and his agenda.
What I think I'll do is killfile Kevin John Panzke, and stick around for awhile to see if anyone else is more interested in the exchange of information, rather than arguing with Kevin John Panzke.
I've only covered the surface of Windows Vista, and there are those here who know a lot more than I do, and have information, etc. to offer.
Let's start a dialogue about Vista, and forget about petty jerks who only want attention. Let the information begin to flow!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP

Good! Ask away!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Jeff" wrote in message

Well, Now that that's settled, I do have Vista questions!!
Jeff
"NLWard" wrote in message Actually, if memory serves, Peter, he's somewhere around late 20s. At least that's what his age was in the MSN Premium and MSN Messenger betas and the MSN Beta Butterfly group.
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Peter Foldes" wrote in message I was one of the 1st ones to put him on my kill file a couple of months ago. I did remove him from there after I started seeing replies to his posts that I did not see. I have now tried to talk some sense to him but it is to no avail. I found out that he is a young boy in his pre-teens and there is no use to talk to him.
I am now going to start to ignore his posts and we should all do this either by kill file or our own self control. Adding fuel to the fire does not help. As soon as he will realize that he will be talking to himself the sooner he will stop his child like nonsense
-- Peter
Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
"NLWard" wrote in message Well, folks, I came to this newsgroup thinking I could both help others and get some help as well. I've been testing Windows Vista since the end of July 2005, and have downloaded and installed every build as it came out.
At this point, it doesn't look like that's gonna happen, simply because we're all too busy arguing with Kevin John Panzke. He seems to have taken control of this newsgroup, and made it his own. There's not real information being shared at all, so I have a couple of choices . . .
I can stick around and see what happens, or I can just bail right now, and forget about this newsgroup as being useful to anyone but Kevin John Panzke and his agenda.
What I think I'll do is killfile Kevin John Panzke, and stick around for awhile to see if anyone else is more interested in the exchange of information, rather than arguing with Kevin John Panzke.
I've only covered the surface of Windows Vista, and there are those here who know a lot more than I do, and have information, etc. to offer.
Let's start a dialogue about Vista, and forget about petty jerks who only want attention. Let the information begin to flow!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP

Well Nancy, It just happens that Zach and Andre have pretty much answered all of my Vista related questions about hardware configs for Aeroglass; And based partly on their reccomendations; I have subsequently bought a Vista ready laptop. So until the public Beta is released, I'm sorta out of questions for the time being. But when I do get to play with Vista- I'll have alot of questions!!!! In the meantime-I'll be content to read what you all have to say about it. Thanks,
Jeff "NLWard" wrote in message

Good! Ask away!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Jeff" wrote in message Well, Now that that's settled, I do have Vista questions!!
Jeff
"NLWard" wrote in message Actually, if memory serves, Peter, he's somewhere around late 20s. At least that's what his age was in the MSN Premium and MSN Messenger betas and the MSN Beta Butterfly group.
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Peter Foldes" wrote in message I was one of the 1st ones to put him on my kill file a couple of months ago. I did remove him from there after I started seeing replies to his posts that I did not see. I have now tried to talk some sense to him but it is to no avail. I found out that he is a young boy in his pre-teens and there is no use to talk to him.
I am now going to start to ignore his posts and we should all do this either by kill file or our own self control. Adding fuel to the fire does not help. As soon as he will realize that he will be talking to himself the sooner he will stop his child like nonsense
-- Peter
Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
"NLWard" wrote in message Well, folks, I came to this newsgroup thinking I could both help others and get some help as well. I've been testing Windows Vista since the end of July 2005, and have downloaded and installed every build as it came out.
At this point, it doesn't look like that's gonna happen, simply because we're all too busy arguing with Kevin John Panzke. He seems to have taken control of this newsgroup, and made it his own. There's not real information being shared at all, so I have a couple of choices . . .
I can stick around and see what happens, or I can just bail right now, and forget about this newsgroup as being useful to anyone but Kevin John Panzke and his agenda.
What I think I'll do is killfile Kevin John Panzke, and stick around for awhile to see if anyone else is more interested in the exchange of information, rather than arguing with Kevin John Panzke.
I've only covered the surface of Windows Vista, and there are those here who know a lot more than I do, and have information, etc. to offer.
Let's start a dialogue about Vista, and forget about petty jerks who only want attention. Let the information begin to flow!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP

Yeah, Zack and Andre are very good. They answer a lot of questions for us. However, my motive isn't to make myself look good, but to help to head the newsgroup back to what it was designed for in the first place.
There's a lot of good information to be had, and if the newsgroup gets back on track, there will be more questions than Zack and Andre can handle. Maybe I'll know the answer to some of the questions and can help. More importantly, by reading this newsgroup, I can learn a whole lot more than I know now.
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Jeff" wrote in message

Well Nancy, It just happens that Zach and Andre have pretty much answered all of my Vista related questions about hardware configs for Aeroglass; And based partly on their reccomendations; I have subsequently bought a Vista ready laptop. So until the public Beta is released, I'm sorta out of questions for the time being. But when I do get to play with Vista- I'll have alot of questions!!!! In the meantime-I'll be content to read what you all have to say about it. Thanks,
Jeff "NLWard" wrote in message Good! Ask away!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Jeff" wrote in message Well, Now that that's settled, I do have Vista questions!!
Jeff
"NLWard" wrote in message Actually, if memory serves, Peter, he's somewhere around late 20s. At least that's what his age was in the MSN Premium and MSN Messenger betas and the MSN Beta Butterfly group.
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Peter Foldes" wrote in message I was one of the 1st ones to put him on my kill file a couple of months ago. I did remove him from there after I started seeing replies to his posts that I did not see. I have now tried to talk some sense to him but it is to no avail. I found out that he is a young boy in his pre-teens and there is no use to talk to him.
I am now going to start to ignore his posts and we should all do this either by kill file or our own self control. Adding fuel to the fire does not help. As soon as he will realize that he will be talking to himself the sooner he will stop his child like nonsense
-- Peter
Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
"NLWard" wrote in message Well, folks, I came to this newsgroup thinking I could both help others and get some help as well. I've been testing Windows Vista since the end of July 2005, and have downloaded and installed every build as it came out.
At this point, it doesn't look like that's gonna happen, simply because we're all too busy arguing with Kevin John Panzke. He seems to have taken control of this newsgroup, and made it his own. There's not real information being shared at all, so I have a couple of choices . . .
I can stick around and see what happens, or I can just bail right now, and forget about this newsgroup as being useful to anyone but Kevin John Panzke and his agenda.
What I think I'll do is killfile Kevin John Panzke, and stick around for awhile to see if anyone else is more interested in the exchange of information, rather than arguing with Kevin John Panzke.
I've only covered the surface of Windows Vista, and there are those here who know a lot more than I do, and have information, etc. to offer.
Let's start a dialogue about Vista, and forget about petty jerks who only want attention. Let the information begin to flow!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP

Nancy, I hope I didn't sound condescending or rude- I do appreciate what you are doing; I just don't have any questions right now-Really- When I am lucky enough to see Vista and have a go at it hands on-then I'll probably be asking alot. Alot!! So you'll be seeing my posts more when I get the opportunity to test run it myself.
Jeff "NLWard" wrote in message

Yeah, Zack and Andre are very good. They answer a lot of questions for us. However, my motive isn't to make myself look good, but to help to head the newsgroup back to what it was designed for in the first place.
There's a lot of good information to be had, and if the newsgroup gets back on track, there will be more questions than Zack and Andre can handle. Maybe I'll know the answer to some of the questions and can help. More importantly, by reading this newsgroup, I can learn a whole lot more than I know now.
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Jeff" wrote in message Well Nancy, It just happens that Zach and Andre have pretty much answered all of my Vista related questions about hardware configs for Aeroglass; And based partly on their reccomendations; I have subsequently bought a Vista ready laptop. So until the public Beta is released, I'm sorta out of questions for the time being. But when I do get to play with Vista- I'll have alot of questions!!!! In the meantime-I'll be content to read what you all have to say about it. Thanks,
Jeff "NLWard" wrote in message Good! Ask away!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Jeff" wrote in message Well, Now that that's settled, I do have Vista questions!!
Jeff
"NLWard" wrote in message Actually, if memory serves, Peter, he's somewhere around late 20s. At least that's what his age was in the MSN Premium and MSN Messenger betas and the MSN Beta Butterfly group.
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Peter Foldes" wrote in message I was one of the 1st ones to put him on my kill file a couple of months ago. I did remove him from there after I started seeing replies to his posts that I did not see. I have now tried to talk some sense to him but it is to no avail. I found out that he is a young boy in his pre-teens and there is no use to talk to him.
I am now going to start to ignore his posts and we should all do this either by kill file or our own self control. Adding fuel to the fire does not help. As soon as he will realize that he will be talking to himself the sooner he will stop his child like nonsense
-- Peter
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"NLWard" wrote in message Well, folks, I came to this newsgroup thinking I could both help others and get some help as well. I've been testing Windows Vista since the end of July 2005, and have downloaded and installed every build as it came out.
At this point, it doesn't look like that's gonna happen, simply because we're all too busy arguing with Kevin John Panzke. He seems to have taken control of this newsgroup, and made it his own. There's not real information being shared at all, so I have a couple of choices . . .
I can stick around and see what happens, or I can just bail right now, and forget about this newsgroup as being useful to anyone but Kevin John Panzke and his agenda.
What I think I'll do is killfile Kevin John Panzke, and stick around for awhile to see if anyone else is more interested in the exchange of information, rather than arguing with Kevin John Panzke.
I've only covered the surface of Windows Vista, and there are those here who know a lot more than I do, and have information, etc. to offer.
Let's start a dialogue about Vista, and forget about petty jerks who only want attention. Let the information begin to flow!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP

You are right Nancy, its not about looking good or trying to have the most post here, its being a part of the community, sharing that passion and at the same time benefiting from the communities experiences and knowledge of Windows Vista. I am enthusiastic about Windows Vista, its been in development for so long now, being able to test it after so many delays and being able to share my knowledge and experiences since beta 1 is why I am here.
I know I will never be able to answer everybody's questions and I know thats not the right way to do things. I do avoid questions I can't answer, just sharing what I know and helping where I think I can. Just like you, I am learning too, but it seems I spend too much time exploring and messing with Vista, so I get knowledgeable advantages out of it. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"NLWard" wrote in message

Yeah, Zack and Andre are very good. They answer a lot of questions for us. However, my motive isn't to make myself look good, but to help to head the newsgroup back to what it was designed for in the first place.
There's a lot of good information to be had, and if the newsgroup gets back on track, there will be more questions than Zack and Andre can handle. Maybe I'll know the answer to some of the questions and can help. More importantly, by reading this newsgroup, I can learn a whole lot more than I know now.
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Jeff" wrote in message Well Nancy, It just happens that Zach and Andre have pretty much answered all of my Vista related questions about hardware configs for Aeroglass; And based partly on their reccomendations; I have subsequently bought a Vista ready laptop. So until the public Beta is released, I'm sorta out of questions for the time being. But when I do get to play with Vista- I'll have alot of questions!!!! In the meantime-I'll be content to read what you all have to say about it. Thanks,
Jeff "NLWard" wrote in message Good! Ask away!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Jeff" wrote in message Well, Now that that's settled, I do have Vista questions!!
Jeff
"NLWard" wrote in message Actually, if memory serves, Peter, he's somewhere around late 20s. At least that's what his age was in the MSN Premium and MSN Messenger betas and the MSN Beta Butterfly group.
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Peter Foldes" wrote in message I was one of the 1st ones to put him on my kill file a couple of months ago. I did remove him from there after I started seeing replies to his posts that I did not see. I have now tried to talk some sense to him but it is to no avail. I found out that he is a young boy in his pre-teens and there is no use to talk to him.
I am now going to start to ignore his posts and we should all do this either by kill file or our own self control. Adding fuel to the fire does not help. As soon as he will realize that he will be talking to himself the sooner he will stop his child like nonsense
-- Peter
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"NLWard" wrote in message Well, folks, I came to this newsgroup thinking I could both help others and get some help as well. I've been testing Windows Vista since the end of July 2005, and have downloaded and installed every build as it came out.
At this point, it doesn't look like that's gonna happen, simply because we're all too busy arguing with Kevin John Panzke. He seems to have taken control of this newsgroup, and made it his own. There's not real information being shared at all, so I have a couple of choices . . .
I can stick around and see what happens, or I can just bail right now, and forget about this newsgroup as being useful to anyone but Kevin John Panzke and his agenda.
What I think I'll do is killfile Kevin John Panzke, and stick around for awhile to see if anyone else is more interested in the exchange of information, rather than arguing with Kevin John Panzke.
I've only covered the surface of Windows Vista, and there are those here who know a lot more than I do, and have information, etc. to offer.
Let's start a dialogue about Vista, and forget about petty jerks who only want attention. Let the information begin to flow!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP

Geez you guys; All I meant was i dont have any questions right now!! LOL :-) Relax and DO share your knowledge pls :-)
Jeff "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

You are right Nancy, its not about looking good or trying to have the most post here, its being a part of the community, sharing that passion and at the same time benefiting from the communities experiences and knowledge of Windows Vista. I am enthusiastic about Windows Vista, its been in development for so long now, being able to test it after so many delays and being able to share my knowledge and experiences since beta 1 is why I am here.
I know I will never be able to answer everybody's questions and I know thats not the right way to do things. I do avoid questions I can't answer, just sharing what I know and helping where I think I can. Just like you, I am learning too, but it seems I spend too much time exploring and messing with Vista, so I get knowledgeable advantages out of it. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"NLWard" wrote in message Yeah, Zack and Andre are very good. They answer a lot of questions for us. However, my motive isn't to make myself look good, but to help to head the newsgroup back to what it was designed for in the first place.
There's a lot of good information to be had, and if the newsgroup gets back on track, there will be more questions than Zack and Andre can handle. Maybe I'll know the answer to some of the questions and can help. More importantly, by reading this newsgroup, I can learn a whole lot more than I know now.
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Jeff" wrote in message Well Nancy, It just happens that Zach and Andre have pretty much answered all of my Vista related questions about hardware configs for Aeroglass; And based partly on their reccomendations; I have subsequently bought a Vista ready laptop. So until the public Beta is released, I'm sorta out of questions for the time being. But when I do get to play with Vista- I'll have alot of questions!!!! In the meantime-I'll be content to read what you all have to say about it. Thanks,
Jeff "NLWard" wrote in message Good! Ask away!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Jeff" wrote in message Well, Now that that's settled, I do have Vista questions!!
Jeff
"NLWard" wrote in message Actually, if memory serves, Peter, he's somewhere around late 20s. At least that's what his age was in the MSN Premium and MSN Messenger betas and the MSN Beta Butterfly group.
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Peter Foldes" wrote in message I was one of the 1st ones to put him on my kill file a couple of months ago. I did remove him from there after I started seeing replies to his posts that I did not see. I have now tried to talk some sense to him but it is to no avail. I found out that he is a young boy in his pre-teens and there is no use to talk to him.
I am now going to start to ignore his posts and we should all do this either by kill file or our own self control. Adding fuel to the fire does not help. As soon as he will realize that he will be talking to himself the sooner he will stop his child like nonsense
-- Peter
Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
"NLWard" wrote in message Well, folks, I came to this newsgroup thinking I could both help others and get some help as well. I've been testing Windows Vista since the end of July 2005, and have downloaded and installed every build as it came out.
At this point, it doesn't look like that's gonna happen, simply because we're all too busy arguing with Kevin John Panzke. He seems to have taken control of this newsgroup, and made it his own. There's not real information being shared at all, so I have a couple of choices . . .
I can stick around and see what happens, or I can just bail right now, and forget about this newsgroup as being useful to anyone but Kevin John Panzke and his agenda.
What I think I'll do is killfile Kevin John Panzke, and stick around for awhile to see if anyone else is more interested in the exchange of information, rather than arguing with Kevin John Panzke.
I've only covered the surface of Windows Vista, and there are those here who know a lot more than I do, and have information, etc. to offer.
Let's start a dialogue about Vista, and forget about petty jerks who only want attention. Let the information begin to flow!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP

Will do. ;) -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Jeff" wrote in message

Geez you guys; All I meant was i dont have any questions right now!! LOL :-) Relax and DO share your knowledge pls :-)
Jeff "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message You are right Nancy, its not about looking good or trying to have the most post here, its being a part of the community, sharing that passion and at the same time benefiting from the communities experiences and knowledge of Windows Vista. I am enthusiastic about Windows Vista, its been in development for so long now, being able to test it after so many delays and being able to share my knowledge and experiences since beta 1 is why I am here.
I know I will never be able to answer everybody's questions and I know thats not the right way to do things. I do avoid questions I can't answer, just sharing what I know and helping where I think I can. Just like you, I am learning too, but it seems I spend too much time exploring and messing with Vista, so I get knowledgeable advantages out of it. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"NLWard" wrote in message Yeah, Zack and Andre are very good. They answer a lot of questions for us. However, my motive isn't to make myself look good, but to help to head the newsgroup back to what it was designed for in the first place.
There's a lot of good information to be had, and if the newsgroup gets back on track, there will be more questions than Zack and Andre can handle. Maybe I'll know the answer to some of the questions and can help. More importantly, by reading this newsgroup, I can learn a whole lot more than I know now.
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Jeff" wrote in message Well Nancy, It just happens that Zach and Andre have pretty much answered all of my Vista related questions about hardware configs for Aeroglass; And based partly on their reccomendations; I have subsequently bought a Vista ready laptop. So until the public Beta is released, I'm sorta out of questions for the time being. But when I do get to play with Vista- I'll have alot of questions!!!! In the meantime-I'll be content to read what you all have to say about it. Thanks,
Jeff "NLWard" wrote in message Good! Ask away!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Jeff" wrote in message Well, Now that that's settled, I do have Vista questions!!
Jeff
"NLWard" wrote in message Actually, if memory serves, Peter, he's somewhere around late 20s. At least that's what his age was in the MSN Premium and MSN Messenger betas and the MSN Beta Butterfly group.
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Peter Foldes" wrote in message I was one of the 1st ones to put him on my kill file a couple of months ago. I did remove him from there after I started seeing replies to his posts that I did not see. I have now tried to talk some sense to him but it is to no avail. I found out that he is a young boy in his pre-teens and there is no use to talk to him.
I am now going to start to ignore his posts and we should all do this either by kill file or our own self control. Adding fuel to the fire does not help. As soon as he will realize that he will be talking to himself the sooner he will stop his child like nonsense
-- Peter
Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
"NLWard" wrote in message Well, folks, I came to this newsgroup thinking I could both help others and get some help as well. I've been testing Windows Vista since the end of July 2005, and have downloaded and installed every build as it came out.
At this point, it doesn't look like that's gonna happen, simply because we're all too busy arguing with Kevin John Panzke. He seems to have taken control of this newsgroup, and made it his own. There's not real information being shared at all, so I have a couple of choices . . .
I can stick around and see what happens, or I can just bail right now, and forget about this newsgroup as being useful to anyone but Kevin John Panzke and his agenda.
What I think I'll do is killfile Kevin John Panzke, and stick around for awhile to see if anyone else is more interested in the exchange of information, rather than arguing with Kevin John Panzke.
I've only covered the surface of Windows Vista, and there are those here who know a lot more than I do, and have information, etc. to offer.
Let's start a dialogue about Vista, and forget about petty jerks who only want attention. Let the information begin to flow!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP

Nancy
I do not think so. You always want to be older when young and young when you are older. Anyway this is the last from me on Kevin.
-- Peter
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"NLWard" wrote in message

Actually, if memory serves, Peter, he's somewhere around late 20s. At least that's what his age was in the MSN Premium and MSN Messenger betas and the MSN Beta Butterfly group.
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Peter Foldes" wrote in message I was one of the 1st ones to put him on my kill file a couple of months ago. I did remove him from there after I started seeing replies to his posts that I did not see. I have now tried to talk some sense to him but it is to no avail. I found out that he is a young boy in his pre-teens and there is no use to talk to him.
I am now going to start to ignore his posts and we should all do this either by kill file or our own self control. Adding fuel to the fire does not help. As soon as he will realize that he will be talking to himself the sooner he will stop his child like nonsense
-- Peter
Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
"NLWard" wrote in message Well, folks, I came to this newsgroup thinking I could both help others and get some help as well. I've been testing Windows Vista since the end of July 2005, and have downloaded and installed every build as it came out.
At this point, it doesn't look like that's gonna happen, simply because we're all too busy arguing with Kevin John Panzke. He seems to have taken control of this newsgroup, and made it his own. There's not real information being shared at all, so I have a couple of choices . . .
I can stick around and see what happens, or I can just bail right now, and forget about this newsgroup as being useful to anyone but Kevin John Panzke and his agenda.
What I think I'll do is killfile Kevin John Panzke, and stick around for awhile to see if anyone else is more interested in the exchange of information, rather than arguing with Kevin John Panzke.
I've only covered the surface of Windows Vista, and there are those here who know a lot more than I do, and have information, etc. to offer.
Let's start a dialogue about Vista, and forget about petty jerks who only want attention. Let the information begin to flow!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP

Dunno about Andre (I think we're singing from the same hymnsheet on this one)... but bring on the questions ;o)
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "NLWard" wrote in message

Yeah, Zack and Andre are very good. They answer a lot of questions for us. However, my motive isn't to make myself look good, but to help to head the newsgroup back to what it was designed for in the first place.
There's a lot of good information to be had, and if the newsgroup gets back on track, there will be more questions than Zack and Andre can handle. Maybe I'll know the answer to some of the questions and can help. More importantly, by reading this newsgroup, I can learn a whole lot more than I know now.
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Jeff" wrote in message Well Nancy, It just happens that Zach and Andre have pretty much answered all of my Vista related questions about hardware configs for Aeroglass; And based partly on their reccomendations; I have subsequently bought a Vista ready laptop. So until the public Beta is released, I'm sorta out of questions for the time being. But when I do get to play with Vista- I'll have alot of questions!!!! In the meantime-I'll be content to read what you all have to say about it. Thanks,
Jeff "NLWard" wrote in message Good! Ask away!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Jeff" wrote in message Well, Now that that's settled, I do have Vista questions!!
Jeff
"NLWard" wrote in message Actually, if memory serves, Peter, he's somewhere around late 20s. At least that's what his age was in the MSN Premium and MSN Messenger betas and the MSN Beta Butterfly group.
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Peter Foldes" wrote in message I was one of the 1st ones to put him on my kill file a couple of months ago. I did remove him from there after I started seeing replies to his posts that I did not see. I have now tried to talk some sense to him but it is to no avail. I found out that he is a young boy in his pre-teens and there is no use to talk to him.
I am now going to start to ignore his posts and we should all do this either by kill file or our own self control. Adding fuel to the fire does not help. As soon as he will realize that he will be talking to himself the sooner he will stop his child like nonsense
-- Peter
Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
"NLWard" wrote in message Well, folks, I came to this newsgroup thinking I could both help others and get some help as well. I've been testing Windows Vista since the end of July 2005, and have downloaded and installed every build as it came out.
At this point, it doesn't look like that's gonna happen, simply because we're all too busy arguing with Kevin John Panzke. He seems to have taken control of this newsgroup, and made it his own. There's not real information being shared at all, so I have a couple of choices . . .
I can stick around and see what happens, or I can just bail right now, and forget about this newsgroup as being useful to anyone but Kevin John Panzke and his agenda.
What I think I'll do is killfile Kevin John Panzke, and stick around for awhile to see if anyone else is more interested in the exchange of information, rather than arguing with Kevin John Panzke.
I've only covered the surface of Windows Vista, and there are those here who know a lot more than I do, and have information, etc. to offer.
Let's start a dialogue about Vista, and forget about petty jerks who only want attention. Let the information begin to flow!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP

Not about senseless arguing about the behavior of single individuals...Ignore him if you do not like him or you think his arguements do not make sense.
"NLWard" wrote in message

Well, folks, I came to this newsgroup thinking I could both help others and get some help as well. I've been testing Windows Vista since the end of July 2005, and have downloaded and installed every build as it came out.
At this point, it doesn't look like that's gonna happen, simply because we're all too busy arguing with Kevin John Panzke. He seems to have taken control of this newsgroup, and made it his own. There's not real information being shared at all, so I have a couple of choices . . .
I can stick around and see what happens, or I can just bail right now, and forget about this newsgroup as being useful to anyone but Kevin John Panzke and his agenda.
What I think I'll do is killfile Kevin John Panzke, and stick around for awhile to see if anyone else is more interested in the exchange of information, rather than arguing with Kevin John Panzke.
I've only covered the surface of Windows Vista, and there are those here who know a lot more than I do, and have information, etc. to offer.
Let's start a dialogue about Vista, and forget about petty jerks who only want attention. Let the information begin to flow!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP

Nah, Jeff, your post was fine. Gave me an opportunity to jump back on the old soapy box, ya know? :)
My Vista machine had to be converted to XP and loaned out (thank goodness for mobile racks) to my Property Owners Association office. Hopefully the power supply will come in Monday or Tuesday, and I can install it and get my machine back.
So I'm just gathering information in the meantime . . .
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Jeff" wrote in message

Nancy, I hope I didn't sound condescending or rude- I do appreciate what you are doing; I just don't have any questions right now-Really- When I am lucky enough to see Vista and have a go at it hands on-then I'll probably be asking alot. Alot!! So you'll be seeing my posts more when I get the opportunity to test run it myself.
Jeff "NLWard" wrote in message Yeah, Zack and Andre are very good. They answer a lot of questions for us. However, my motive isn't to make myself look good, but to help to head the newsgroup back to what it was designed for in the first place.
There's a lot of good information to be had, and if the newsgroup gets back on track, there will be more questions than Zack and Andre can handle. Maybe I'll know the answer to some of the questions and can help. More importantly, by reading this newsgroup, I can learn a whole lot more than I know now.
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Jeff" wrote in message Well Nancy, It just happens that Zach and Andre have pretty much answered all of my Vista related questions about hardware configs for Aeroglass; And based partly on their reccomendations; I have subsequently bought a Vista ready laptop. So until the public Beta is released, I'm sorta out of questions for the time being. But when I do get to play with Vista- I'll have alot of questions!!!! In the meantime-I'll be content to read what you all have to say about it. Thanks,
Jeff "NLWard" wrote in message Good! Ask away!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Jeff" wrote in message Well, Now that that's settled, I do have Vista questions!!
Jeff
"NLWard" wrote in message Actually, if memory serves, Peter, he's somewhere around late 20s. At least that's what his age was in the MSN Premium and MSN Messenger betas and the MSN Beta Butterfly group.
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP
"Peter Foldes" wrote in message I was one of the 1st ones to put him on my kill file a couple of months ago. I did remove him from there after I started seeing replies to his posts that I did not see. I have now tried to talk some sense to him but it is to no avail. I found out that he is a young boy in his pre-teens and there is no use to talk to him.
I am now going to start to ignore his posts and we should all do this either by kill file or our own self control. Adding fuel to the fire does not help. As soon as he will realize that he will be talking to himself the sooner he will stop his child like nonsense
-- Peter
Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
"NLWard" wrote in message Well, folks, I came to this newsgroup thinking I could both help others and get some help as well. I've been testing Windows Vista since the end of July 2005, and have downloaded and installed every build as it came out.
At this point, it doesn't look like that's gonna happen, simply because we're all too busy arguing with Kevin John Panzke. He seems to have taken control of this newsgroup, and made it his own. There's not real information being shared at all, so I have a couple of choices . . .
I can stick around and see what happens, or I can just bail right now, and forget about this newsgroup as being useful to anyone but Kevin John Panzke and his agenda.
What I think I'll do is killfile Kevin John Panzke, and stick around for awhile to see if anyone else is more interested in the exchange of information, rather than arguing with Kevin John Panzke.
I've only covered the surface of Windows Vista, and there are those here who know a lot more than I do, and have information, etc. to offer.
Let's start a dialogue about Vista, and forget about petty jerks who only want attention. Let the information begin to flow!
-- Nancy Ward Beta Butterfly MSN Messenger MVP